Great discussion, cheers Post Growthers. I too acknowledge the need for an ecological perspective (both for natural and social systems), note: https://medium.com/@daneke/adapting-a-maladaptive-society-institutional-ecology-vs-economics-922dd5764d09. However, we are a nation run by private bankers and associated wankers. And, our all-wank-all-the-time macro-economy is predicated upon unlimited growth. Also note: http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue102/Daneke102.pdf. My late friend, Herman Daly, knew we need to start by unraveling the banking eco-system. Good luck with your efforts.

PS: Your example of industrial/war planning reminds me of Jimmy Carter's evocation of "the moral equivalent of war", which along with the GOP's "Oct Surprise" (keeping the hostages in Iran) cost him re-election.