Great discussion Colby. Life really is a shit sandwich: "the more bread you have the less shit you have to eat". Back to the discussion. I am gobsmacked at how justice became akin to child molesting to the far right. Consider the onslaught toward the notion of woke, does that mean the attackers are asleep? I'd say dead, but zombies. I keep telling my socialist friends that they need to find alternative term for their unpopular (not to mention unworkable) ideas. It will take a lot of Madmen marketing to undue all the brainwashing. As John Steinbeck observed "socialism never took hold in American, because the poor their saw themselves as less exploited proletariat than temporarily embarrassed millionaires", make that billionaires.