Great discussion Gretel. Maybe he is was talking about cheese, but just can't spell (grate). Actually, this is all pure fascist playbook, to convince us that our democracy does not work, and only the Mango Mussolini has what we need. They declared a fake "war of all against all". Mote: https://medium.com/@daneke/leviathan-revisited-the-people-versus-the-prince-of-plunder-f878e833da2d