Indeed Caren: Vance is all that and more, except the hillbilly part. Vance is a high tech rock-a-billy low rider, groomed by the Federalist Society (the folks that brought us the current SCOTUS) when at Yale Law . He is the brains of the new Reich. See: https://daneke.medium.com/hillbilly-hellegy-j-d-vance-and-the-discombobulation-of-the-american-political-mythology-f3272b3d636e