Interesting discussion John. Yes the system is rigged, but don't encourage folks to handicap it even more. Please let me know when you have changed the system. In the meantime we have a FULL FRONTAL FASCIST running from the right. Not voting or voting for a 3rd party candidate is a vote for Trump. And with his expected skullbuggery it could come down to very few votes. Ethical illusions have nothing to do with it. We will either have a democracy, flawed as it is, or we can piss it away by making moral statements. We might have avoided 9/11, forever wars, and climate denial if Ralph Nader could have gotten past his own ego and not run. So what did a vote for Nader accomplish? It made oil and war profiteers very happy. We could play these historical games all day long, but until we change the system, people of good will should vote as often as the can. Note: https://medium.com/@daneke/the-fanatical-fascist-fungus-is-upon-us-please-america-wake-up-and-smell-the-jackboot-polish-b81f695a472f