Maybe so Nick. But that was not a debate. We saw the smooth talking, TechBro appointed, Sith Apprentice evading all questions and telling bald faced lies about his boss (who he will soon replace). I wonder if Vance wants to change his name a 4th time for this slick new full-camo Vance. His changes his tune, more than he changes his eye liner (which I understand is tatooed). Meanwhile the well-meaning coach pulled all his punches until the very last minute (after most viewer had probably abandoned watching). For a real picture of Vance (with his tatooed ideology) note: https://medium.com/p/01ff9d329e08