Maybe so John. But that was no debate and everyone lost. We saw the smooth talking, TechBro appointed, Sith Apprentice evading all questions and telling bald faced lies about his boss (who he will soon replace). I wonder if Vance wants to change his name a 4th time for this slick new full-camo Vance. Meanwhile the well-meaning coach pulled all his punches until the very last minute (after most viewer had probably abandoned watching). For a better picture of Vance note: https://daneke.medium.com/moldbuggery-afoot-at-hand-a-new-ideology-for-the-coming-dark-age-01ff9d329e08